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belcher's agent says he like everyone else is stunned that belcher turned violent. >> the how and the why is the craziness of this. there's nothing in my relationship with him that would indicate any troubling past, anything that troubled him that would have caused him to commit such a heinous act as this and we just -- we'll never know, unfortunately. and i think that's the great debate of this. >> chiefs won the game against carolina and later in the locker room head coach spoke to the team. >> it's something really good today. really good. you overcame a lot. you stuck together as a team like we talked about. helped each other. all right? family and friends. you relied on those people. all right? you relied on your faith to help get you through this and we got through it. and in a grand way because everybody made a contribution. everybody helped. okay in that's what a team is about. that's what a team is about. >> police say belcher used a gun to kill his partner and himself and halftime segment on sunday night football bob costas made a case for gun control. sports reporter joe ca
belcher's agent says he like everyone else is stunned that belcher turned violent. >> the how and the why is the craziness of this. there's nothing in my relationship with him that would indicate any troubling past, anything that troubled him that would have caused him to commit such a heinous act as this and we just -- we'll never know, unfortunately. and i think that's the great debate of this. >> chiefs won the game against carolina and later in the locker room head coach spoke...
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one of belcher's friends tells a sports blog called dead spin after game last month belcher was dazed and couldn't remember what had happened the day before or at least before the game. steve brown is on fox top story. is he live in our midwest bureau tonight. what sort of signs of trouble before this shooting? anything? >> about the allegations that belcher had had head trauma or concussions, both the team and the league said there is no concussion history that they have on this man. and that he was never held out of a game because of a concussion. about the relationship between belcher and perkins, fox 4 our affiliate in kansas city spoke with friends and said saturday morning there was an argument and over her late return from a concert. and then the shots were fired. it really didn't make any sense to belcher's family. his aunt lives in the kansas city area. she read this statement for cameras today: we will cherish the wonderful memories we of have of javon and pray that those memories bring us peace as we grapple to understand the unpredictable end of his life and the life of ca
one of belcher's friends tells a sports blog called dead spin after game last month belcher was dazed and couldn't remember what had happened the day before or at least before the game. steve brown is on fox top story. is he live in our midwest bureau tonight. what sort of signs of trouble before this shooting? anything? >> about the allegations that belcher had had head trauma or concussions, both the team and the league said there is no concussion history that they have on this man. and...
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first up tragedy in the nfl after kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend before shooting and killing himself. as a result, the gun control debate back in the spotlight but with more gun regulation actually have made any difference at all? here now is deputy editor of think progress.org and nationally syndicated radio talk show host. lars i'm a second amendment guy. to me guns don't kill people crazy people shooting guns kill people. would a gun regulation have stopped this tragedy? >> only one kind of gun regulation would have stopped this and that would be to gut the second amendment and i don't think igor can reject that. 20,000 laws around the country regulate guns at the state, federal and local level. those laws sometimes are forced a and sometimes not. this young man there was no reason legally to deny him the ownership of a firearm. so the suggestion by bob costas who ought to be fired for the comments, his outrageous suggestion that the civil rights of americans all 300 million of us should be taken away and we should be denied the right to own a g
first up tragedy in the nfl after kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend before shooting and killing himself. as a result, the gun control debate back in the spotlight but with more gun regulation actually have made any difference at all? here now is deputy editor of think progress.org and nationally syndicated radio talk show host. lars i'm a second amendment guy. to me guns don't kill people crazy people shooting guns kill people. would a gun regulation have...
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we also confirm that belcher owned a number of give guns. he used one to kill his girlfriend and another one to kill himself. investigators say alcohol may have been a factor in this. but when police came in contact with javon belcher at 2:30 in the morning in his bentley they said at that time he was fine to drive. shep? >> shepard: trace gallagher live tonight, thanks. cops here in new york say they have caught a man who is accused of pushing somebody right in front of a subway train. they found him just a block away from where the attack happened. it all went down yesterday right in times square just around the corner from our building here. a bystander recorded a video of an argument between two men on that platform. >> leaf me [bleep] alone. take your [bleep], [bleep], stand in line wait for the train. >> the man on the right is the suspect. all sorts of different stories about why they were arguing. one witness said the suspect was deranged. the victim was trying to calm him down. according to the "new york post" which our parent compa
we also confirm that belcher owned a number of give guns. he used one to kill his girlfriend and another one to kill himself. investigators say alcohol may have been a factor in this. but when police came in contact with javon belcher at 2:30 in the morning in his bentley they said at that time he was fine to drive. shep? >> shepard: trace gallagher live tonight, thanks. cops here in new york say they have caught a man who is accused of pushing somebody right in front of a subway train....
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belcher and his girlfriend had been arguing . the twov them leaving behind a three month old baby who can now with family. >> we could see huge tax increases and shrinking pay cuts. it is it a bad combination and triggering another recession. jan 1st is the deadline for lawmakers and the president to reach a deal on the budget. if they don't we'll go over the so-called fiscal cliff. mexico swearing in a new president and the reaction not good in the streets of mexico city. the inauguration is earlier today and marking the return of a party that was forced out a dozen years ago. after running the country 7 uninterrupted deck cades and playinged by crime. we are joined by lauren who is in mexico he promises that his party will be corruption-fro. that is important. you want stability south of our border considering they have a war going on. why should people believe it would be better. >> as you mentioned he has repeated again and again that his party is different than the one who left the presidency 12 years ago. he promised to cre
belcher and his girlfriend had been arguing . the twov them leaving behind a three month old baby who can now with family. >> we could see huge tax increases and shrinking pay cuts. it is it a bad combination and triggering another recession. jan 1st is the deadline for lawmakers and the president to reach a deal on the budget. if they don't we'll go over the so-called fiscal cliff. mexico swearing in a new president and the reaction not good in the streets of mexico city. the...
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he joined us last week in wake of the jayvon belcher tragedy. he's back to talk about what we can do to change the gun laws. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure, eliot. >> eliot: when we talked last week, it was after the tragedy that we suffered through last week. we talked more theoretically about the need for gun laws, about how the second amendment really was not a bar and how you also are a gun owner but have smart, centrist, moderate ideas that could take us a along way toward getting guns off the streets. let's go sequentially through the ideas. where would you start? >> well, first of all we're a country of people and laws. we regulate wall street because people would go broke otherwise. we regulate healthcare because people would die otherwise. there is only one product in america not regulated not regulated on how it's made, marketed or sold and it's the real handgun. we regulate toy guns and teddy bears but there is no manufacturing and marketing standards for firearms because congress has prohibited the national consumer product sa
he joined us last week in wake of the jayvon belcher tragedy. he's back to talk about what we can do to change the gun laws. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure, eliot. >> eliot: when we talked last week, it was after the tragedy that we suffered through last week. we talked more theoretically about the need for gun laws, about how the second amendment really was not a bar and how you also are a gun owner but have smart, centrist, moderate ideas that could take us a along way...
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belcher complained about perkins to a woman he was secretly dating. he sent that woman a text message saying he would shoot perkins if she didn't leave him alone. belcher later killed perkins and himself on december 1st. >>> new this morning a closed door meeting gets under way shortly on the deadly attacks at the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. the panel found there were major security problems. >> reporter: an independent panel spent the past two months analyzing what went wrong in benghazi on september 11th. ambassador chris for stevens and three other americans were killed. the panel found security was lacking and those at the consulate could not have anticipated the attack. also the report says there were no protests leading up to the attack. that is in the unclassified portion of the attack. other details are considered top secret. the report also includes 24 recommendations for the state department. secretary of state hillary clinton says she's already working on implementing them. ranging from strengthening security to improving intelligenc
belcher complained about perkins to a woman he was secretly dating. he sent that woman a text message saying he would shoot perkins if she didn't leave him alone. belcher later killed perkins and himself on december 1st. >>> new this morning a closed door meeting gets under way shortly on the deadly attacks at the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. the panel found there were major security problems. >> reporter: an independent panel spent the past two months analyzing what went...
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that belcher said to him? >> well he hasn't said what belcher said to him specifically but what police have said is that belcher expressed this thankfulness to coach crennel and chiefs organization from giving him a chance to play in the nfl. he was from a small university and he worked really hard to get where he was. there was another member of chiefs staff who saw that he had a gun and called 911. the chiefs staff members who confronted belcher in the parking lot said they never felt like they were in any danger. at least that's according to police. but then he shot himself right in front of them. the police now know exactly what happened. what they're trying to figure out in this investigation is obviously why it happened. >> yeah, i mean 25 years old. he'd been really just sort of a, an underdog in a lot of ways and he'd been so successful in that. there have been six current or former nfl players that have committed suicide in the past two years. which is an unprecedented number. what are they looking in
that belcher said to him? >> well he hasn't said what belcher said to him specifically but what police have said is that belcher expressed this thankfulness to coach crennel and chiefs organization from giving him a chance to play in the nfl. he was from a small university and he worked really hard to get where he was. there was another member of chiefs staff who saw that he had a gun and called 911. the chiefs staff members who confronted belcher in the parking lot said they never felt...
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player vovan belcher. police say he killed his 22-year-old girlfriend and then drove to the kansas city chiefs stadium and killed himself in front of his coach and general manager. the two had reportedly been arguing frequentbely before the incident. >>> police in miami say the driver that caused a deadly bus crash there was not familiar with the area and drove in to a concrete overpass. two men were killed. federal records show the bus company, though, does not have any violations for unsafe driving. aides to former president george h.w. bush expect him to be released in the coming days. bush 41 is in stable condition at a hospital in houston where he is being treated for a cough related to bronchitis. those are the top stories right now. back to you. >> shannon: peter, thank you. >>> u.n. ambassador susan rice is on the short list to replace secretary of state hillary clinton. but it would be controversial choice for obama, one that key republicans say they plan to block. here for a former balanced debat
player vovan belcher. police say he killed his 22-year-old girlfriend and then drove to the kansas city chiefs stadium and killed himself in front of his coach and general manager. the two had reportedly been arguing frequentbely before the incident. >>> police in miami say the driver that caused a deadly bus crash there was not familiar with the area and drove in to a concrete overpass. two men were killed. federal records show the bus company, though, does not have any violations for...
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joe van belcher and his girlfriend lived apart but got together by thanksgiving. they had a three-month-old daughter. he killed his girlfriend at the home on saturday and drove to the chiefs stadium where he killed himself in front of his coach and general manager. the team decided to play their game against the carolina panthers yesterday but fans had mixed emotions. >> it didn't feel that great coming out here. >> before kickoff the crowd was asked to observe a moment of silence for domestic violence victims and their families and there was no mention of belcher. the chief's won the game. >>> in japan at least nine people are dead and seven are injured. supports gave way causing the ceiling to fall on top of cars. rescue efforts have been put on hold because of fallen debris. the tunnel had just passed a routine inspection back in september. >>> nasa is expected to give an update on its mission to mars today. it's happening in san francisco at the annual fall meeting. nasa is down playing rumors of major new findings from the curiosity rover. the announcement wi
joe van belcher and his girlfriend lived apart but got together by thanksgiving. they had a three-month-old daughter. he killed his girlfriend at the home on saturday and drove to the chiefs stadium where he killed himself in front of his coach and general manager. the team decided to play their game against the carolina panthers yesterday but fans had mixed emotions. >> it didn't feel that great coming out here. >> before kickoff the crowd was asked to observe a moment of silence...
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if javon belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> poignant words. what should this country do in response? joining me to debate what is certainly a matter of life and death to so many people is david copel, research director at the independence institute. on the other side is josh horowitz, executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. welcome to you both. david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher need a high powered hand gun? >> well, he didn't need any hand gun to kill, to murder his wife and leave the poor baby as an orphan. o.j. simpson showed that football players like lots of other domestic abusers, can kill people with their bare hands. >> right, but why does anybody in america need either a hand gun or high powered assault weapon? i don't understand. explain to me. >> i don't think the police have released what kind of hand gun he owned. do you know what kind he owned? why are you calling it a high powered hand gun? >> wl, i'm assuming most hand guns are high powered, right? >> so you call
if javon belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> poignant words. what should this country do in response? joining me to debate what is certainly a matter of life and death to so many people is david copel, research director at the independence institute. on the other side is josh horowitz, executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. welcome to you both. david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher...
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jovan belcher shot his girlfriend multiple times at the home they shared. then he drove to the training complex behind me and killed himself in front of several coaches who were trying to talk him out of it. police know what happened, now they're trying to figure out and investigate why it happened. that investigation is ongoing. police are not saying much else about a potential motive. >> i think everyone who has spoken out from family members to friends have all said that they were completely shocked by this. it seems so out of character. having said that, as you know, there's been at least six current or former nfl players that have committed suicide in just the past two years. murder-suicide unprecedented. however there are some people this morning who are speculating these tragedies could have been linked to undiagnosed concussion injuries. any truth to that? >> well, we don't know if there's truth to it, but it's certainly a natural area of inquiry. the nfl has been trying in the last couple of years to deal with the issue of concussions. as you menti
jovan belcher shot his girlfriend multiple times at the home they shared. then he drove to the training complex behind me and killed himself in front of several coaches who were trying to talk him out of it. police know what happened, now they're trying to figure out and investigate why it happened. that investigation is ongoing. police are not saying much else about a potential motive. >> i think everyone who has spoken out from family members to friends have all said that they were...
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officers approached the black bentley and found kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher asleep in the driver's sleep. the pro football player got out of his car and told officers he was visiting a friend that lives in a nearby apartment. >> you weren't driving, you are correct. i hear you, that's why going upstairs is a good place to go back. >> belcher greed leave his car there and went inside. four and a half hours later, belcher called 911 and told police his son shot his girlfriend. >> she's been shot. >> yes. >> right now is she awake. >> kasandra! >> police were called to arrowhead stadium. >> we believe our suspect is a chiefs player. >> this officer rushed to the scene and pulled into one of the main entrances, then worked his way around to the training facility. when he got out of his car, he got on his radio and described what he saw. >> i've got a sighting from afar. it looks like they're in the negotiation phase. i need a rifle asap. >> the officer moved forward to where police say belcher was talking with the general manager and head coach romeo crennel. >> i'm on the
officers approached the black bentley and found kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher asleep in the driver's sleep. the pro football player got out of his car and told officers he was visiting a friend that lives in a nearby apartment. >> you weren't driving, you are correct. i hear you, that's why going upstairs is a good place to go back. >> belcher greed leave his car there and went inside. four and a half hours later, belcher called 911 and told police his son shot his...
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he was not arrested and belcher told police he was going to an apartment to see a woman. listen to what police told him in this video released by kansas city police. >> you live right here? then you just need to go upstairs, dude. >> okay, that's going to be your best bet. >> we're trying to cut you a break here. >> now i want you to look at the second dash cam video from just five hours later. officers are responding to a second 911 call and at that moment, belcher had apparently already shot his wife and was on his way to shoot himself in front of his coach and fellow players. >> we do have a confirmed shooting and it is um the believe, belcher who plays with the chiefs. >>> it's the holiday season, but the fiscal gift from washington may end up leaving you with the bill and it could be a biggie. >>> and former south african nelson mandela is still in the hospital, we'll tell you how he's doing. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing
he was not arrested and belcher told police he was going to an apartment to see a woman. listen to what police told him in this video released by kansas city police. >> you live right here? then you just need to go upstairs, dude. >> okay, that's going to be your best bet. >> we're trying to cut you a break here. >> now i want you to look at the second dash cam video from just five hours later. officers are responding to a second 911 call and at that moment, belcher had...
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belcher's grieving teammates refuse to blame guns for tragic event. the new york daily news say a pair of players one schaefering thanksgiving dinner with belcher who insists the protection of guns is necessary and most people own them. they called it a mistake saying that my mistake is i left it for too much communication in the short segment. rather than properly discussing the football culture the gun culture and domestic violence. costas says he does not favor appeal of the second amendment. >> bret: it's been a month since the campaign ended but vice president asheel ghafoor js gaffes are continuing. he sent congratulatory letter to eric boudenweiser republican state senate candidate in delaware. but budenwebeiser withdrew after being charged with felony counts for raining a boy for a decade. the form letter began, "congratulations on your recent victory in our great state of delaware." in a local report that mentioned the story, the situation is described as somewhat embarrassing. the result of vice president not being awareed of the confusion,
belcher's grieving teammates refuse to blame guns for tragic event. the new york daily news say a pair of players one schaefering thanksgiving dinner with belcher who insists the protection of guns is necessary and most people own them. they called it a mistake saying that my mistake is i left it for too much communication in the short segment. rather than properly discussing the football culture the gun culture and domestic violence. costas says he does not favor appeal of the second...
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in the coming days, belcher's action and the connection to football will be analyzed. who knows, but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe. if belcher didn't process a gun, he and perkins would be alive today. >> bret: news busters said costas entitled to his opinion but does he have to give it during halftime of a nationally televised game? critics who say political bias turns up in college classrooms have a big number to back up the case. the web site campus reform looked to federal election records from open secrets.org and found 96% of donations from ivy league faculty and staff went to president obama. congress approval rating has been dreadful but scores low marks on ethics and honesty also. new gallop poll finds members of congress come in second to last among professions beating only car salespeople. car salesman took to twitter today to express displeasure with the poll. 10% said they would give congress a high to very high rating. 34% said average. 54% said very low to low. finally when researching the internet be careful when citing wikipedia. judge in
in the coming days, belcher's action and the connection to football will be analyzed. who knows, but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe. if belcher didn't process a gun, he and perkins would be alive today. >> bret: news busters said costas entitled to his opinion but does he have to give it during halftime of a nationally televised game? critics who say political bias turns up in college classrooms have a big number to back up the case. the web site campus reform looked to...
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it is the desperate 911 call from javon belcher's own mother. the kansas city chief's nfl player who shot his girlfriend. surveillance video showed a mother allegedly sneaking her little daughter out of the hospital. doctors had warned the young leukemia patient had something in her heart that would kill her within days if they didn't deal with it. now word of a major development. what her father reportedly says about where that child is right now. stay close. same item at walmart f less? gee okay. fijit friends. fifteen bucks on rollback. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourself if you could save on brands you want. walmart. can i still ship a gift in time r christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter
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we have new details about the murder-suicide of kansas city chiefs line backer jovan belcher. reportedly he's worried his girlfriend would take away his baby and money. belcher complained about perkins to a woman she was secretly dating and apparently isn't the woman a text message saying he would shoot perkins if she did not leave him alone. >>> happening now in washington, d.c. a closed door briefing about the deadly september attacks in libya is now under way. as kyla campbell reports an independent panel released a scathing report about the security measures. kyla. >> reporter: dave, that meeting going on right now is top secret. but we do know that the panel hammered the state department on security in benghazi. this comes three months after christopher stevens antliae others were killed on september 11th. the securitiments is and libyan response fell short. it also raises the possibility that gates the compound could have been left open. while there has been a lot of finger pointing hillary clinton says she accepts any wrong doing tied to the attacks. clinton has been si
we have new details about the murder-suicide of kansas city chiefs line backer jovan belcher. reportedly he's worried his girlfriend would take away his baby and money. belcher complained about perkins to a woman she was secretly dating and apparently isn't the woman a text message saying he would shoot perkins if she did not leave him alone. >>> happening now in washington, d.c. a closed door briefing about the deadly september attacks in libya is now under way. as kyla campbell...
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. >> with heavy hearts they took the field one day after belcher killed his girlfriend before taking his own life outside the stadium. >> it is tough. we miss him. he was a great guy, a great teammate. we loved his family. like i said, my heart goes out to them. our prayers are with them. >> as part of the pre game ceremonies, the chiefs observed a moment of silence for the victims of domestic abuse. after the first touchdown he ran over to head coach to give him a hug. police say early saturday morning belcher shot his killed his 22-year-old girlfriend cassandra perkins, the mother of his three-month-old daughter at their home. he then got in his car, drove to the team's practice facility outside arrow head stadium where authorities say he thanked coaches for believing in him. moments later he walked away shooting himself in the head. this as the coaches and general manager looked on in horror. they want to know what caused thoim snap. they were arguing after she returned home late from a concert. >> there was an individual that did something that he snapped. that i don't understand
. >> with heavy hearts they took the field one day after belcher killed his girlfriend before taking his own life outside the stadium. >> it is tough. we miss him. he was a great guy, a great teammate. we loved his family. like i said, my heart goes out to them. our prayers are with them. >> as part of the pre game ceremonies, the chiefs observed a moment of silence for the victims of domestic abuse. after the first touchdown he ran over to head coach to give him a hug. police...
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belcher replies, our offense can't even put seven on the board. baby momma crazy, but i have a little girl almost 3 months. she makes me smile on the worst day. suggested belcher would need a gun to ward off his daughter's future boyfriends. i have guns for her little bfs. between the text messages and the shooting itself, we have no answer why he did what he did. we might not ever get one. right no i want to bring in mike, sports correspondent for public radio, steven who was shot in the aurora community center this summer, and dave, the author of "columbine." dave, what we are establishing in the intro and what we realized, there's no obvious answer. we can talk about the gun aspect, we can talk about domestic violence. this was an act of domestic violence killing her, but there was no pattern before of domestic violence. talk nfl head injuries, but we don't have a strong history of concussions here. columbine, everything that came out in the days after that ended up being wrong. do you see parallels here? >> yes, i do. this case is refreshing.
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i talked to cornell belcher. jim mecino also disagrees. this is from an article of obama saying he doesn't give a whit about national polling in which obama's numbers are dragged down by horrific per forms in the deep south and talking about battleground states and what belcher talked about with me is, obviously, you know, the south is obama's worst region and abc poll has him up and down 16 in the south and what we're talking about is that obama's really bad, horrific polling in the south is those large margins are not equivalent to the ability of the south to control or impact the electoral college. so, what do you think about that? >> well, it's entirely possible that on election day we wake up and see the numbers and the south cost obama the popular vote but the data i have says that the south isn't the big driver. look at the number you gave me. it says that romney up 16 points in the south. last time according to the exit polls it was 9-point race in the south and that means that romney gained 7 points in the south compared to mccain
i talked to cornell belcher. jim mecino also disagrees. this is from an article of obama saying he doesn't give a whit about national polling in which obama's numbers are dragged down by horrific per forms in the deep south and talking about battleground states and what belcher talked about with me is, obviously, you know, the south is obama's worst region and abc poll has him up and down 16 in the south and what we're talking about is that obama's really bad, horrific polling in the south is...
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last saturday, kansas city chiefs jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend and then killed himself. but newly released footage shows just hours earlier, police talked to belcher found passed out in his car. >> how are you doing tonight, man? >> reporter: belcher had been drinking. but since he wasn't driving, the police cut him a break. with no way of knowing what he was about to do. clayton sandell, abc news, denver. >>> crisis in egypt showing no signs of easing this morning despite a major concession by the president morsi. he said that he will give up some of those powers that he recently grabbed. opposition groups are calling for more protests, saying he did not go far enough. >>> venezuelan president hugo chavez said that he has cancer and it's returned. he'll head to cuba for a third surgery for the first time he has named a successor, if he can no longer lead that country. >>> and the college football phenom known as johnny football has earned a new nickname. johnny heisman. texas a&m quarterback johnny manziel, becoming the first of ever college freshman to ever win the pre
last saturday, kansas city chiefs jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend and then killed himself. but newly released footage shows just hours earlier, police talked to belcher found passed out in his car. >> how are you doing tonight, man? >> reporter: belcher had been drinking. but since he wasn't driving, the police cut him a break. with no way of knowing what he was about to do. clayton sandell, abc news, denver. >>> crisis in egypt showing no signs of easing this morning...
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no one is saying that belcher is not responsible. in fact, earlier in the day, in that i was appalled by the way some of this had been covered initially by some of the sports networks where they made it seal like there were two victims. that kasandra perkins was victim one and javon butler was victim two. no. the person who committed suicide first committed a murder and he is responsible for that. however, the ready easy availability of guns, could he have strangled her or stabbed her? of course he could have. but the easy availability of guns makes this sort of thing far more likely to occur. if somebody points out that the country has a problem with nutrition and obesity, that doesn't mean they want to ban fast food. but they are you aware of some of the dangers and hoping to moderate people's behavior. if nothing else, even if some people disagree with me or misinterpret what i said. if it started a conversation on this, then i think that's a good thing. >> it is my honor that you joined us tonight with your first television inter
no one is saying that belcher is not responsible. in fact, earlier in the day, in that i was appalled by the way some of this had been covered initially by some of the sports networks where they made it seal like there were two victims. that kasandra perkins was victim one and javon butler was victim two. no. the person who committed suicide first committed a murder and he is responsible for that. however, the ready easy availability of guns, could he have strangled her or stabbed her? of...
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kansas city chiefs linebacker belcher kills his girlfriend and then himself. now, the liberal media going after guns. >> handguns do not enhance our safety, they exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments and embrace us to have confrontations other than go away from it. if belcher did not pose us of god, he and his girlfriend would still be alive today. stuart: no gun, no crime, no death. >> if you look at statistics, it is just that available a accurate. where the police can't or will not get there in time to protect you. their job is to investigate crimes. they are not guarantee of our safety. the supreme court has ruled definitively in the last six years that the right is a personal right that the government cannot interfere with. bob costas for all of his knowledge of sports, they have no basis to say that these people would still be alive if the person who pulled the trigger was not able to get a gun. we all use steak knives to help us enjoy our meals, but they can also be dangerous weapons. they are far more easily attainable than guns. stuart:
kansas city chiefs linebacker belcher kills his girlfriend and then himself. now, the liberal media going after guns. >> handguns do not enhance our safety, they exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments and embrace us to have confrontations other than go away from it. if belcher did not pose us of god, he and his girlfriend would still be alive today. stuart: no gun, no crime, no death. >> if you look at statistics, it is just that available a accurate. where the police...
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belcher didn't show many warning signs before the incident and quarterback brady quinn expressed the situation like this. >> we live in a society of social networks and twitter pages and facebook and that's fine and stuff but, you know, we have contact with our work associates, our family and friends and seems like half the time we're more preoccupied with our phone and other things instead of relationships we have in front of us and hopefully people can learn from this and try to actually figure out if someone is battling something deeper on the inside than what they are revealing on the day to day basis. >>> the 49ers meet the patriots in what some are calling the a super bowl preview. we'll break it down saturday at 7:30 on 49ers preview. >>> the coaches are anything but when talking about the media. >> i wouldn't get too tied up with words. >> we have a big challenge in front of us this week. >> yeah. we have talked a little bit. >> i'm sure coach harbaugh said it. i'm sure it's right. >> let me stay away from categorizing anything. >> what are the considerations? to win. >> uhm.
belcher didn't show many warning signs before the incident and quarterback brady quinn expressed the situation like this. >> we live in a society of social networks and twitter pages and facebook and that's fine and stuff but, you know, we have contact with our work associates, our family and friends and seems like half the time we're more preoccupied with our phone and other things instead of relationships we have in front of us and hopefully people can learn from this and try to...
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police have just released the identity of belcher's girlfriend as 22-year-old cassandra perkins. she died in the hospital after suffering multiple gunshot wounds inflicted by the 25-year-old, the starting linebacker for the kansas city chiefs. he's been with the organization for four years until this morning when he took his own life outside the stadium. he did this before thanking his coach and general manager for all they've done for him. we heard from darren snap, from the kansas city police department. he set up the scene and told us what happened this morning. listen. >> the coaches said when he pulled up, he was -- they were never in danger of the he never threatened them or anything. they talked for a little bit and that's when he shot himself. >> this all happened about an hour after police say he shot perkins multiple times at a home only five miles from the stadium. his mother called 911 from the home. the second shooting which happened outside the practice building, caused whole chiefs facility to go on lock down today. the event sent shock waves throughout the communi
police have just released the identity of belcher's girlfriend as 22-year-old cassandra perkins. she died in the hospital after suffering multiple gunshot wounds inflicted by the 25-year-old, the starting linebacker for the kansas city chiefs. he's been with the organization for four years until this morning when he took his own life outside the stadium. he did this before thanking his coach and general manager for all they've done for him. we heard from darren snap, from the kansas city police...
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. >> with heavy hearts they took the field one day after belcher killed his girlfriend before taking his own life outside the stadium. >> it is tough. we miss him. he was a great guy, a great teammate. we loved his family. like i said, my heart goes out to them. our prayers are with them. >> as part of the pre game ceremonies, the chiefs observed a moment of silence for the victims of domestic abuse. after the first touchdown he ran over to head coach to give him a hug. police say early saturday morning belcher shot and killed his 22-year-old girlfriend cassandra perkins, the mother of his three-month-old daughter at their home. he then got in his car, drove to the team's practice facility outside arrow head stadium where authorities say he thanked coaches for believing in him. moments later he walked away shooting himself in the head. this as the coaches and general manager looked on in horror. they want to know what caused thoim snap. they were arguing after she returned home late from a concert. >> there was an individual that did something that he snapped. that i don't understand
. >> with heavy hearts they took the field one day after belcher killed his girlfriend before taking his own life outside the stadium. >> it is tough. we miss him. he was a great guy, a great teammate. we loved his family. like i said, my heart goes out to them. our prayers are with them. >> as part of the pre game ceremonies, the chiefs observed a moment of silence for the victims of domestic abuse. after the first touchdown he ran over to head coach to give him a hug. police...
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plus we have the 911 tapes and the alleged murder/suicide involving kansas city chiefs play er javon belcher. >>> and there's no plan to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff. broken record, broken record. i'm christine romans in today for john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >>> up first, president obama standing his ground over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> th
plus we have the 911 tapes and the alleged murder/suicide involving kansas city chiefs play er javon belcher. >>> and there's no plan to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff. broken record, broken record. i'm christine romans in today for john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >>> up first, president obama standing his ground over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans...
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sf. >>. >> reporter: belcher had been drinking. but since he wasn't driving, the police cut him a brack. with no way of knowing what he was about to do. >> crisis in egypt showing no signs of easing this morning despite a major concession by the president morsi. he said that he grab up some of those powers that he recently grabbed. opposition groups are calling for more protests saying he did not go far enough. >>> hugo chavez said that he has cancer and it's returned. he'll head to cuba for a third time. >>> and the college football phenom known as johnny football has earned a new nickname. johnny heisman. johnny manziel, his speech moving his parents to tears. >> i just want to thank you for the encouragement, the love and the patience over the years. grandpa, all the times we used to play in the hallway, i love you with all my heart and to grandma, i'm sorry for all of the things that we broke in the house. >> he threw for 3,000 yards and rushed for 1,000. >>> finally, police in texas trying to arrest a man for a second time aft
sf. >>. >> reporter: belcher had been drinking. but since he wasn't driving, the police cut him a brack. with no way of knowing what he was about to do. >> crisis in egypt showing no signs of easing this morning despite a major concession by the president morsi. he said that he grab up some of those powers that he recently grabbed. opposition groups are calling for more protests saying he did not go far enough. >>> hugo chavez said that he has cancer and it's...
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javon belcher's actions will be analyzed. but here is what i believe if javon belcher didn't possess a gun. he and sandra perkins would be alive today. >> gretchen: i don't know it is interesting. you can't say that. when people want to kill other people . there is a lot of ways to do it i don't know. would the rage come out in a different way? would he have strangled her? i don't know if anybody knows quite frankly and it is dangerous to kind of make personal predictions when you don't have the facts . no one will know whether or not he would have killed her with or without a gun. >> brian: people with guns can get them. >> steve: he had them legally. >> brian: illegally? >> steve: legally. >> brian: i just don't know it is appropriate enough less than 24 hours after the guy took his girlfriend and mother of his baby to make that stance. i don't think we needed to hear that last night. >> steve: i think you are right. 10 after the top of the hour. >> gretchen: a dope smuggler rams his boat in a another boat. the coast guard
javon belcher's actions will be analyzed. but here is what i believe if javon belcher didn't possess a gun. he and sandra perkins would be alive today. >> gretchen: i don't know it is interesting. you can't say that. when people want to kill other people . there is a lot of ways to do it i don't know. would the rage come out in a different way? would he have strangled her? i don't know if anybody knows quite frankly and it is dangerous to kind of make personal predictions when you don't...
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javon belcher is clearly a person who had a tremendous amount of pain in his life. he shot his girlfriend eight times. that is an extraordinary amount of anger spilling out of him. this is not what the founders envisioned, and this is not the best policy that we can have for our society. >> that anger is what we should be talking about. we're talking about the weapons. we're not talking about domestic violence, and that does a huge disservice to the woman who is in that situation who his done o service by bob costas telling millions of nfl viewers that they have permission to blame guns instead of the person who pulled the trigger. so we're not going to talk about the reason for domestic violence. we're not going to talk about maybe whether or not this guy had psychiatric problems. we're going to talk about the gun. for whitlock or costas to give an inanimate object human capabilities, saying that handguns exacerbate our flaws and bait us into embracing confrontation is absolutely absurd, and i think that rather than talk about the guns, what we should be talking ab
javon belcher is clearly a person who had a tremendous amount of pain in his life. he shot his girlfriend eight times. that is an extraordinary amount of anger spilling out of him. this is not what the founders envisioned, and this is not the best policy that we can have for our society. >> that anger is what we should be talking about. we're talking about the weapons. we're not talking about domestic violence, and that does a huge disservice to the woman who is in that situation who his...
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they have now identified the name of that player, jovan belcher is what we're getting according to the associated press. more details from elizabeth as the day continues. again, a very sad story to report, a 25-year-old player from the kansas city chief commits suicide in front of the general manager and his coach after allegedly killing his girlfriend. still under investigation. kelly. >> kelly: for northern california bracing for another round much severe storms 24 hours after getting slammed by heavy rain and strong winds and the area is now gearing up for a second lashing. and a third storm is moving in tomorrow morning. already, the weather is left thousands in the dark and left massive delays on roads and airports, but the biggest concern is flooding. >> and it's an amazing amount of water in the time we had and if we've got three more days of this there's no way that the banks are going to hold that, no way. >> the flood water, it's pouring a foot high over this, this embankment right here. >> the amount of rain that was hitting at that hour, we had an unbelievable amount of rai
they have now identified the name of that player, jovan belcher is what we're getting according to the associated press. more details from elizabeth as the day continues. again, a very sad story to report, a 25-year-old player from the kansas city chief commits suicide in front of the general manager and his coach after allegedly killing his girlfriend. still under investigation. kelly. >> kelly: for northern california bracing for another round much severe storms 24 hours after getting...
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. >>> coming up at 7:47, how the kansas city chiefs and their community responded to the jovan belcher tragedy. >>> four people including three firefighters are still in the hospital this morning after a serious accident in other rin da. it happened on -- orinda. it happened on eastbound 24 near wilder road. it all started when an suv crashed into the center divide. while one of the drivers and three firefighters were standing on the right shoulder, another suv lost control pushing another car into them. they were all rushed to the hospital with major injuries. >>> the weekend storm brought major problems to the south bay and that had actuallity workers and law enforcement working overtime. a man, woman and child were were stuck in their car after flooding on east capital and mantague expressway. crews were busy pumping water out of pumps. many people have started to stock up on sandbags to prepare for the next storm. >>> we're getting a lot of rain. it rained quite hard overnight. you know how storms are, they are very unpredictable. i would say we're in very good condition to tackle
. >>> coming up at 7:47, how the kansas city chiefs and their community responded to the jovan belcher tragedy. >>> four people including three firefighters are still in the hospital this morning after a serious accident in other rin da. it happened on -- orinda. it happened on eastbound 24 near wilder road. it all started when an suv crashed into the center divide. while one of the drivers and three firefighters were standing on the right shoulder, another suv lost control...
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. >> javon belcher's actions will be analyzed. who knows. but here wrote jason wood lock what i believe. if javon belcher didn't own a gun they would be alive today. >> it was a mistake to push for gun control during the football game. the only people calling it a rant are those who disagree with him. be sure to watch the o'reilly factor tonight as bill o'reilly will talk with bob costas. >>> a rare public speech by former president george w. bush praising the virtues of immigrati immigration. >> america is a nation of immigrants. immigrants helped builded the country that we have become and i am grants help build dynamic tomorrow ch as our nation debates the proper course of action relating to immigration i hope we do so with a benevolent spirit and keep in mind the contribution of immigrants. >> he gave the speech at a conference focusing on economic growth which the institute co-sponsors. >> they can hear you now verizon filing a patent for targeting ads some say are way too intrusive. the new technology would let people listen in on conv
. >> javon belcher's actions will be analyzed. who knows. but here wrote jason wood lock what i believe. if javon belcher didn't own a gun they would be alive today. >> it was a mistake to push for gun control during the football game. the only people calling it a rant are those who disagree with him. be sure to watch the o'reilly factor tonight as bill o'reilly will talk with bob costas. >>> a rare public speech by former president george w. bush praising the virtues of...
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in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows but here is what i believe. if jovan belcher did not possess a gun he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> some critics saying costas picked the wrong time and place and others blast him for trying to take away their second amendment rights. now the blogs are light iing up with calls for him to be fired. quote, nbc should show bob costas the door. then there's this facebook page. fire bob costas for his unamerican comments on gun control. hln sports reporter joe carter is here to talk about all of this. what did he say in his own defense? >> i found several fire bob costas facebook pages with lots of likes. he went on the shows yesterday morning and defended himself and said that he did admit he made a mistake, that he used wrong forum to take on such a heavy-handed topic, that he should have listened to his own rule which is when you take on a topic as politically charged as gun control, leave yourself enough time to fully flush out that topic. and as we know
in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows but here is what i believe. if jovan belcher did not possess a gun he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> some critics saying costas picked the wrong time and place and others blast him for trying to take away their second amendment rights. now the blogs are light iing up with calls for him to be fired. quote, nbc should show bob costas the door. then there's this...
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the javon belcher story is extremely political. the idea we don't talk about it that's a political choice when you choose to decontext annualize something that was such a horrible tragedy. >> you are the best best @edgeofsports. dave, twice in one week, how blessed we are. >> i am a big fan of meredith's work. >> thank you. the feeling is mutual. >> bill: there you go. okay. dave zirin from "the nation," whom we have adopted. it's a great deal. " all right. full "the full court press" on this wednesday, december 5th. stay with us. >> this is "the bill press show." [ music ] unleashed. joy behar. >> on my next show, dr. ruth answers all your questions about sex. i mean the ones you can say on tv of course, on say anything. smiles make more smiles. when the chocolate is hershey's. life is delicious. [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet but they're gonna fall in love get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost nev
the javon belcher story is extremely political. the idea we don't talk about it that's a political choice when you choose to decontext annualize something that was such a horrible tragedy. >> you are the best best @edgeofsports. dave, twice in one week, how blessed we are. >> i am a big fan of meredith's work. >> thank you. the feeling is mutual. >> bill: there you go. okay. dave zirin from "the nation," whom we have adopted. it's a great deal. " all...
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. >> reporter: it wasn't long before talk about belcher, the nfl and gun control died down. as for gun control legislation passed after gabby giffords was shot? zero. of course i meant to say sandy hook, i apologize but keep in mind the nra is powerful not just because it's well funded but because it has 4 million members, that's like 4 million votes in your pocket and it remains to be seen if lawmakers have the political will in the face of all those photos. >> the polls are shifting. it will be interesting to see if there is political will that comes out of that, carol. the new polls after the shootings at sandy hook show more americans are in favor of stricter gun laws. 57% of americans favor stronger gun laws and 30% say they should be left where they are. 50% of the respondents say stricter gun laws would not have helped prevent horrible events that happened at sandy hook on friday. >>> texas governor rick perry who is a long time supporter of gun rights is speaking out after the tragedy in newtown at a tea party meeting. he said texans should be allowed to carry guns a
. >> reporter: it wasn't long before talk about belcher, the nfl and gun control died down. as for gun control legislation passed after gabby giffords was shot? zero. of course i meant to say sandy hook, i apologize but keep in mind the nra is powerful not just because it's well funded but because it has 4 million members, that's like 4 million votes in your pocket and it remains to be seen if lawmakers have the political will in the face of all those photos. >> the polls are...
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. >> we will talk to cornell belcher, a pollster for the obama campaign in a moment. dan, the president's campaign, are they saying anything publicly about these numbers, acknowledging them one way or the other? >> they are. i talked to a couple campaign officials. they told me the state of the race is what it has been, which is as they said, quote, close and competitive, in these key battleground states. they believe with a slight lean toward the president. but as you pointed out, they are raising some questions about the sampling use in the polling, the number of democrats versus republicans in this poll versus the last poll, but i think in general, what the campaign has done, is even when the poll numbers have been very high for the obama campaign, they are sort of downplaying them publicly, saying that they always run as if they are five points down, that they're pushing hard toward the finish line. so again, they're sort of taking this more sort of modest view of these numbers that come out, but nonetheless, they are concerned. i mean, the president has been lead
. >> we will talk to cornell belcher, a pollster for the obama campaign in a moment. dan, the president's campaign, are they saying anything publicly about these numbers, acknowledging them one way or the other? >> they are. i talked to a couple campaign officials. they told me the state of the race is what it has been, which is as they said, quote, close and competitive, in these key battleground states. they believe with a slight lean toward the president. but as you pointed out,...
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also obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher and david gergen, senior political analyst. cornell, this is the first poll taken entirely after the debate although it's just one poll, certainly not a good indicator for president obama or his campaign. what do you make of it? >> well, look, i think we always said this is going to be a tight race, and it's going to continue to be a tight race. there's other polls out there, the political battleground poll came out today showed the president slightly ahead. reuters poll came out friday that showed the president slightly ahead. but look, it's not going to be about the polls. we all know this will be a close race. i think romney did a good job of selling it to the undecided leaning republicans out there and you're seeing them move home. quite frankly, we knew they were going to move home at some point. i think he closed that case with them. he's getting the undecided leaning republicans to come home to him. it will be a close race like we always said it would be. >> ari, a lot of republicans last week were complaining about prev
also obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher and david gergen, senior political analyst. cornell, this is the first poll taken entirely after the debate although it's just one poll, certainly not a good indicator for president obama or his campaign. what do you make of it? >> well, look, i think we always said this is going to be a tight race, and it's going to continue to be a tight race. there's other polls out there, the political battleground poll came out today showed the president...